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The Creation of an Ethno-State Anonymous 12/29/2019 (Sun) 19:23:35 No. 16735
A lot has been going through my mind on this subject lately and I do have a couple of questions:
>how would I best start off in creating it?
Join a party first and run for president after?
>how long would it take to achieve it, considering changing laws and getting to a position of power takes its time?
>how to I best deal with invaders?
Gradually reduce their numbers through cut aid, more hiring of my own people and just letting them die off or active deportation, be it convicts or employees?
>would abolishing a multi-party and parliament system be beneficial?
I imagine having more and more people involved with politics is opening the gates for easier corruption among politicians.
>what laws would I have to change to make life better for my people?
Immigration laws of course, but how about support for families and education?
>restoring national values is important, therefore, a control of educational systems would be somewhat important; how much control is too much?
>would cutting financial aid to Africa and non-European countries stir up a lot of national outrage if said funds would be used to aid my country?
Finally, is it more useful to found my own organisation as to avoid getting branded 'nazi' by left-wingers after joining a right wing party or to go through with doing the latter? How can I make my ideas be heard best?
First you kill the shitskins, THEN you get the state.
>>16738
Doesn't sound likely. The success rests upon the fact that the government or at least part of it have to be on your side or else you just get labelled 'nazi', get arrested and have your life and reputation ruined.
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you'll never get it through democracy. the only answer is to accelerate.
>how would I best start off in creating it?
Join a group of like minded and serious men IRL. I don't mean a group of memers, I mean people who are willing to die for their people. If such a group doesn't exist, make it if you're that type of person. I'm currently stuck at this stage. I don't think you should even consider running for president unless it's a super well-organized publicity stunt, the jews will never let you win and there is little to no chance of a democratic solution (which isn't to say that a group should not dedicate some resources to democratic politics especially since the people have faith in the system to some degree and view it as legitimate. The platform of elected office is important, more important than many people may think.
>how long would it take to achieve it, considering changing laws and getting to a position of power takes its time?
I have no idea, that really depends. I'm of the belief that the lemmings won't wake up until they are living in conditions that are intolerable to them (likely in a material sense) and the current ZOG becomes unable to continue as it has been. This is Lenin's "law of revolution" and I believe it to be very accurate personally, regardless of the source. Lemmings won't break from the status quo as long as it is dangerous for them to do so and the radical alternative can't serve them better than the status quo under ZOG.
>how to I best deal with invaders?
Assuming you are talking of being in a position of power, the first thing to do is to redefine what it means to be a citizen of your country, whether this be according to ethnic group or a broader racial category (as would have to be done in America). After that one could begin deportations and incentives for these people to leave. In America at least there are many problems in the removal sense due to the sheer number of shitskins so balkanization and territorial segregation are viable alternatives.
>would abolishing a multi-party and parliament system be beneficial?
The party system needs destroyed, as does democracy in general. Dividing the people into parties breaks our internal unity and sets us into factions warring against each other. Only (((they))) can benefit. Participatory centralism is the most redpilled position. There is a group of people (likely experts in certain fields) who can all voice their opinions on a matter and ultimately it is the leader who makes the final decision.

I'll answer more later if you want
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>>16755 (cont)
>what laws would I have to change to make life better for my people?
I can think of a whole host of shit that ranges from stopping immigration, anti-miscegenation laws, anti-homosexual laws, eugenic policies, policies which enable families to afford children again, environmental policies, etc. Ending affirmative action policies for minorities and women as well. My answer is kind of vague but you get it.
>restoring national values is important, therefore, a control of educational systems would be somewhat important; how much control is too much?
Total national control of the education system. They will be oriented around both intellectual growth and physical fitness. Only those with merit will rise, money will no longer buy access to higher education.
>would cutting financial aid to Africa and non-European countries stir up a lot of national outrage if said funds would be used to aid my country?
Presuming in this scenario that you've put the press and media under government control (as I would do, the press is a tool for education of the people, it is currently used as a weapon to push narratives and policies by wealthy jews and capitalists) you can spin it in any way possible. Just run massive publicity about the funds being used to help your own countrymen instead. I doubt anyone but lefties would really care that much and if you're like me I'd have them strung up.
>getting branded 'nazi'
This will happen no matter what.
>How can I make my ideas be heard best?
Charisma, good speaking abilities and an average to attractive appearance. Personally I never started to extol the White race publicly until I started to get /fit/. If the messenger is a Tarrant-looking Ubermensch (vid rel) you'll be taken much more seriously than some skinny nerd or chubby kid
>>16755
Thank you very much for your response. It's difficult - but going into politics in a sense of joining a party is not what I imagine to be an ideal choice; I am also careful about organisations as many of them are controlled opposition and/or dox their members. I trust myself the most and believe I could achieve at least small, regional things if I founded my own organisation. Your points are excellent and I will note them all. But I'm still in the process of sorting things out - there isn't much I would feel better about than reaching a position of power to actively better my country, my main focus hereby lies on educational systems and public speeches - at first, I need to gather people that aren't, like you wrote, members. This might be the harder part for me.
>and if you're like me, you'd have them strung up
That sounds good in theory but will sooner or later anger the people. I believe everyone can speak their mind and criticize the government as there will always be differences in opinions. What I believe to be more effective is throughout education on the basics of ethno-nationalism and for those who are against it, a removal from the country at their own expense will be most efficient. If they don't like the system, they aren't welcome. It saves money as well. I rather bring public hanging for rapists and diversity sympathizers back.
>looks
Yes, I agree. I have been hitting the gym because being skinnyfat doesn't get me anywhere. Perhaps I shall soon try to introduce people to my ideals. Will have to do a few more lifts before that, though, heh.
>speaking abilities
I've become more articulate and I know what I'm talking about, so this isn't my main problem. I rather need a way to communicate my thoughts to those who share them without getting screamed down by unwanted bystanders if I choose a public speaking area.
>>16752
You don't get leader status without being slandered. Not sure how you thought this was going to go down.
>>16792
I know that slandering is normal, what I'm talking about is arrest for whatever it is the government might come up with to shut us down. That is why support on multiple fronts [ties to organisations for example] is only advantageous. That was my point, apologies if my statement caused confusion.
>>16783
>Yes, I agree. I have been hitting the gym because being skinnyfat doesn't get me anywhere.
Good on you, anon. I started off skinnyfat as well. I'm nowhere near where I'd like to be but it feels good to be in better shape, not to mention the fact that it does change how people treat you majorly.
>Perhaps I shall soon try to introduce people to my ideals. Will have to do a few more lifts before that, though, heh.
Kek. I don't know how much experience you have in talking to people about these sort of subjects IRL, but it can feel awkward at first, but I've noticed that after every time I've done it I feel more confident in my views and better able to articulate them. Contemplating the engagement afterwards allows one to realize the flaws and perfect them later.
>That sounds good in theory but will sooner or later anger the people.
Honestly the only ones that need strung up are the truly dangerous ones who would head such anti-ethnonationalist movements, the little Lenins or Maos, i.e. the intellectual elite. Remove them and the leftist mob becomes just that, an anarchistic and directionless mob that can be dispersed. No reason to kill off every left-leaning average Joe.
> I need to gather people that aren't, like you wrote, memers.
I think this will be easier than you think. I haven't really gotten myself out there yet but if you don't hang around where these types hang out, you likely won't find them. If you're hitting up the gym and making friends and connections over more traditionally masculine activities you'll get good quality individuals.
>>16799
>I don't know how much experience you have in talking to people about these sort of subjects IRL
Not much - my main issue is that I don't know how to strike up conversations like that. I have been a little bit too uncaring about other people, isolating myself, enjoying solitude and such which is now showing. Speaking or communicating my views by itself isn't the problem, it's really just the fact that I do not know how and where to begin. Once I get started and the other person is responding to my words, it's mostly a discussion where I hope both sides can get their point across. And then there's the problem of a lot of people who might agree with one's ideals aren't ready to become active, meaning either open political activism or just working behind doors for a newly founded organisation. I imagine it to be difficult to gather enough people ready to stick around and aren't undercover agents trying to dox one.
>>16804
A couple words of advice... practice talking to people - practice talking to strangers and having friendly conversations. I think where you are does play some role here - in cities people are much less friendly and it is certainly harder to strike up a conversation with just anyone. Go to places where it is natural for people to talk to strangers and practice. A couple of my favorites are: in a sauna at my gym (close quarters, many people don't have phones, and everyone is made a bit more vulnerable by being half-naked - being outgoing and friendly in this kind of environment can lead to some interesting discussions), and ski lifts (5 minute ride with someone you might never see again - plus it's mostly White/Europeans). You will have to do some thinking about where might be good options for you to gain more experience and confidence.

The other big piece of advice I can offer is to actively read and learn how to better gain peoples' trust, etc. I recommend you read "How to Win Friends and Influence People" by Dale Carnegie. This book isn't revolutionary, but it may open your eyes to some interesting strategic points that you might not have been previously conscious of.

Godspeed.

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