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South Carolina lawmakers introduce bill to begin secession debate Anonymous 08/13/2019 (Tue) 04:30:41 Id:07daff No. 631 History File history
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South Carolina lawmakers introduce bill to begin secession debate

https://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/apr/8/south-carolina-secession-bill-introduced-over-gun-/
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Hell yes. Based red shirts
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I expect to see trade wars, foreign policy disasters, a few race riots, a decrease in personal liberty, higher taxes, higher inflation and probably, economic collapse. The silver lining is, secession will probably become more feasible.
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>>721
>secession will probably become more feasible.
i would love to see it, but dont expect to. im sure every state is dependant on fed grants at this point. and that was the reason they were offered in the first place.

i can see cali breaking off maybe, but only to be given to mexico by all the mexicans that will run that state shortly
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The US is now a bankrupt warmongering police state.

The future of the USA has a few possible scenarios.

The stock market collapsed in 1929, there was a Great Depression, and then there was WWII.

The US economy collapsed in 2008, then there was a recession, and there might be WWIII with China, Russia, Iran, and North Korea.

WWIII will destroy the world, but if the elites play their cards right, Americans might think that the US government are the good guys because believing a lie is easier than finding out the truth.

The US never cared when the USSR had gulags or Cambodia had killing fields before, but the USA could say China and Russia have human right violations or accuse Iran of invading another country as an excuse to launch WWIII when the US Ponzi collapses for real.

If the ruling powers don't overplay their hand by outright banning guns or sending Americans to the concentration camps, the US might manage to avoid Civil War 2.0.

A Civil War might lead to the US breaking up into 2 or more countries.

The USA might improve if Americans embrace morality and Rand Paul is elected in 2024, the swamp is drained, the debt is reduced, the wars are ended, and the Bill of Rights is restored, but this possibility seems unlikely.

The US also might die a slow death and gradually look more like India or Brazil.
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>>724
I don't have the statistics at hand, but if i am not wrong the north west states in the USA have been giving money to the federal government and not getting much back. If the USA gets fractured then these states might be the first to break away and form their own entity.
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Americans are so retarded that they scream regulations will help the economy because more prisons and guards are needed when business people are arrested.

Americans have become so batshit insane today that they insist hating Trump means that you love Obama.

Americans say forks must be banned because they can eat with their hands.

Americans swear that the minimum wage must be increased to kill jobs and raise prices instead of ending welfare.

Americans insist that the only reason the US is collapsing today is because Americans have the Internet.

Americans scream that the USA should nuke China to pay off the US debt.

Americans claim that the USA will never break up because states need US government handouts, but would states that secede be forced to pay US taxes?

Americans swear hunting on the weekends must be illegal because animals need a break.

Americans say that the only possible way to prevent people from starving to death is to slam a gun against the head of taxpayers to force them to fund welfare, but did Americans starve to death when they were no food stamps?

Americans swear anyone who loves freedom is a fag.

Americans insist trade wars are good because China doesn't want to buy US products.

Americans scream everything must be illegal because your actions affect others.

Americans swear tyranny is acceptable because the US has been a police state for 20 years.

Americans don't mind if something is outlawed, but they lose their minds when anything is legal.

Americans don't care when someone is arrested, but Americans become outraged when anyone is released from prison.

Americans scream anyone who loves freedom is a Commie.

Americans insist bailouts are not funded by taxpayers.

Americans scream gas should be $10/gallon.

Americans swear the Chinese government pays for tariffs, not companies or customers.

Americans say that the roads would turn to dust, people would be forced to ride horses, and there would be no electricity if there was no income tax.

Americans don't realize that freedom, once lost, is lost forever. How can Americans be free again if young people never experienced freedom and are taught tyranny is good?

Nazis insist hate speech should be legal, but protesting and burning the flag outlawed.

Do Americans have any critical thinking skills at all?

Are Americans just victims who are not responsible for anything while screaming that the US decay is not their fault and blaming everyone else?

Are Americans crippled retards?

Do Americans have any sense of shame?

Aren't Americans disgusted at the US collapse?

How can Americans look in the mirror or sleep at night now?

The entire USA seems to be collapsing into mass insanity.
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>>788
>that image
wtf man that's 4chan tier
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Once one concedes that a single world government is not necessary, then where does one logically stop at the permissibility of separate states? If Canada and the United States can be separate nations without being denounced as in a state of impermissible ‘anarchy’, why may not the South secede from the United States? New York State from the Union? New York City from the state? Why may not Manhattan secede? Each neighbourhood? Each block? Each house? Each person?
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>>793
>Vivian James tulpa cult
>4chan
The image is kinda old and it was made on 8chan after the exodus.
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The United States has become too big, too authoritarian, and too undemocratic. Its states assume too little responsibility for the solution of their own social, economic, and political problems. So starved for revenue are our states that they are all too willing to abdicate to the federal government their responsibilities for public education, criminal justice, employment, and environmental protection. Fine tuning or patch our badly crippled political system will do little to turn the situation around. There is only one solution to the problems of America - peaceful dissolution, not piecemeal devolution.

https://www.godlikeproductions.com
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>>794
Just send all mestizos to Arizona & New Mexico and make that some sort of containment zone.
Same for bugpeople in Cali and niggers in Texas or something.
(Jews all get send back/into the gas chamber however)
That way you don't have to deal with all the logistics of sending them back to their original countries.
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>>796
well to be fair, everything on 8chan except /pol/ has always also been 4chan tier (ie degenerate af).
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The USA is an immoral bankrupt warmongering police state now.

http://www.desototimes.com/opinion/columns_editorials/let-s-say-no-thanks-to-tyranny-of-american-police/article_562f1f9e-951d-11e5-871b-db9d98cccdea.html

Americans quickly blame blacks, Jews, or illegal immigrants for the fall of the USA, but if Americans really want to know who is responsible, they just need to look in the mirror.

Instead of blaming others, why don't Americans try to think of solutions?

Look not to the politicians; look to yourselves.

If you don't like niggers, move to a white place.

http://www.city-data.com/forum/general-u-s/1013183-whitest-cities-u-s-population-over-2.html

https://www.quora.com/Which-countries-have-the-highest-percentage-of-white-people

If you hate Jews, boycott Jewish businesses.

http://www.subvertednation.net/jew-lists/jewish-surnames/

If you think Jews get special benefits, pretend to be a Jew.

If you hate illegal aliens, don't hire them or socialize with them. Call the police if you see illegals cat-calling, loitering, drinking, playing loud music, or keeping chickens. Report them to the border patrol.

https://help.cbp.gov/app/forms/illegal_act

Nothing will change if everyone does nothing.

Think.
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>>790
>>805
What is this boomer posting? this shit is something that a qtard would spill out of twiter.
>If you don't like niggers, move to a white place.
lol wait till they get to your place via mandatory racial quotas.

>>804
>everything on 8chan except /pol/ has always also been 4chan tier (ie degenerate af)
That's not true, i cant talk for all the boards but some were nice, like /v/, /tg/ and /k/ and im sure there are others that were just as interesting.
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Americans have gone batshit insane.

The USA is a bankrupt warmongering police state.

The default American response to the US collapse is to ignore the decay, excuse government abuse, attack the messengers who warn of the dangers of tyranny, and to blame everyone else except themselves for the decline.

Americans are ignoring the obvious collapse of the US by sticking their heads in the sand and focusing instead on bread and circuses, celebrities, sports, movies, music, alcohol, drugs, and sex.

Americans don't care about government corruption and scandals.

Americans will vehemently attack anyone who dares criticize their beloved government overlords by shouting "fake news!" or calling patriots spammers, trolls, shills, bots, racists, junkies, retards, or nutjobs and demanding that the truth-tellers be censored, banned, get IRS audits, be arrested, or be killed.

Americans quickly blame China, Russia, libtards, Bush, Obama, homosexuals, Communists, Nazis, blacks, atheists, Christians, Jews, Muslims, feminists, baby boomers, or illegal immigrants for the fall of the USA, but if Americans really want to know who is responsible, they just need to look in the mirror.

Americans say Churchill, FDR, Stalin, LBJ, Putin, Merkel, and Hitler are Jews, no one died during WWII, white people never owned slaves, Communists never killed anyone, the Bill of Rights was repealed by the Organic Act of 1872, the US is a simulation being run from Saturn, and Freemasons control the world, but they never offer any proof. Anyone who does provide opposing evidence will be told their source is unreliable.

Americans say increasing the national debt decreases it.

Americans say food stamps are freedom.

Americans say war is peace.

Americans say tyranny is the American way.

The collapse of the US is shocking and disgusting.

How can Americans sleep at night now?

Every country has the government it deserves.
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>>816
>That's not true, i cant talk for all the boards but some were nice
True (although I personally don't know how they compare to the 4chan equivalent) however:
>/v/
video games are per definition degenerate
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Even the most Bush-happy, flag suckling jack-arse knows deep-down inside that something is wrong. America is over and everyone knows it. The New World Order has a dying empire odor and changing the channel ain't going to make this go away.
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only problem with secession is it can be an unintended D&C trap. It seems like one international government becomes likely to happen over time because small countries have trouble competing or defending themselves against larger, over time they become incorporated in to a larger whole.

Like say South Carolina tries to secede, and there is another Civil War to just force them back in to the "Union". 49 states vs. 1 is a tough match. So if a legal secession was successful, it is only in relation to being tolerated by larger entities.

It has also been argued that a deterrent to Civil War might be the ensuing PR disaster of attacking one's own people in the modern day - there is something to be said about this, and maybe there are other things that make secession a bit feasible.

I'm not trying to be pessimistic but like I started with saying, I think eventually most countries consolidate in to one world monopoly system (or if it isn't one system, it's basically one system that looks like separate systems, like a polyopoly). And then we get the End Times, it seems like a natural principle like gravity, however we are able to slow this process and it's not known how long it will take for everything to become one
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We shall have World Government, whether or not we like it. The only question is whether World Government will be achieved by conquest or consent.
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>>828
And our job in it's development is to ensure the path the NWO takes is conquest for if Man consents to his own slavery it will usher in a millennium of darkness - whereas this will only bring in a couple centuries of dissolution.
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Why?
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The future looks very dark.

What kind of life do you have when the globalists are importing Muslims and illegal immigrants and you're not allowed to protect yourself?

Why work when there is welfare and taxes, starting a business is illegal, but stealing is legal?

California says they have homeless because the weather is nice and New York says people are leaving because the weather is bad, but Idaho, Nevada, Florida, Arizona, and Texas don't seem to have a problem with population loss.
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bump for based sc
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>>805
>If you don't like niggers, move to a white place.

HUD was invented to erase White places. running is not an option.

>If you hate Jews, boycott Jewish businesses.
practically impossible as there is a jew tax on basically all food. they cant be here

you are making individualist/libertarian arguments that dont work because we are dealing with populations that act as blocs, not individuals

your luke warm takes are juvenile and uninformed
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>>816
>im sure there are others that were just as interesting.
/ck/ /lit/ /fit/
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You can't move to Poland?
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>>1053
I'm seriously considering it anon. I have a family and small children though. Hard to pack up and move.
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WTF?

Americans used to think that they would vote for the person who would balance the budget, keep the peace, and maintain freedom. Now Americans have found out that politicians are just puppets for the elites. Who knew?

Would anyone be surprised if the president starts wearing a military uniform in public?

You know that the USA is doomed when Americans will look you in the eye and say anyone who opposes forfeiture is a libshit.

Americans scream stories about tyranny are fake news even when the government flat-out says that the NSA wiretaps everyone.

Americans have become so batshit insane now that Americans insist anyone who hates war, debt, and the police state is a nutjob.

The US collapse is guaranteed because only 5 Americans recognize the problems and the government has crossed every line.

Every problem has the wrong answer today.

Instead of ending regulations and encouraging entrepreneurship, Americans would rather that the government stick a gun against the head of taxpayers to fund welfare for the lazy.

Instead of ending wars, Americans scream that wars should be increased.

Instead of ending tyranny, Americans scream that the US has too much freedom.

Instead of ending debt, Americans scream that the debt should be raised.

Instead of shooting up city halls and Congress, Americans would rather go postal in churches and movie theatres.

Who would have thought 30 years ago that all the knowledge in the world would fit in a computer in your pocket?

Who could have known that Americans would drop out because everything you buy will be used to track you?

Soon Americans will be able to live forever if they don't criticize the government.

The only rational solution to mass insanity is to leave. Save yourself. Go underground, go off the grid, and go Galt.

The US might not collapse for 2, 5, 10, 30, or 100 years, but why take a chance and get out now?
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>>1091
Someone needs to rip the enter key off your keyboard.
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Americans used to believe in free speech.
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First, gallant South Carolina nobly made the stand...
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Americans said alcohol was dangerous so it must be banned. Americans then found out that it wasn't so dangerous and it was legalized again.

Americans said marijuana was unsafe so it must be outlawed. Americans then found out that it wasn't so dangerous and it was legalized again.

Now Americans scream guns are dangerous so they must be illegal.

If people were wrong before then how can they be so sure that they are right now?

http://f2bbs.com/bbs
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If most here believe that balkanization is the inevitable outcome of the current system, then we should support actions like this as attempts at peaceful separation. While the odds of success are low, the mere attempt legitimizes our efforts. South Carolina is doing better demographically than most of the other deep South states, making it a decent location for a Dixie variant of the Northwest Initiative. In any case, with the inevitable demographic lockout of right-wing thought at the national level soon upon us, all possible efforts should be made to gain control of state governments in demographically and ideologically compatible states. These states will serve as safe harbors in the troubles to come.
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Americans may see checkpoints, Muslims, blacks, illegal aliens, and beggars and wish that the USA would return to the time when the US was a free country, people wore suits, worked hard, and were moral.

The only thing you can do when you have no freedom and carrying around cash is illegal and depositing less than $10,000 in your own bank account is a crime is to hope that you don't get caught.

Nazis think that the only answer is if a Hitler came to power and deported Muslims and illegal immigrants and killed off the Jews, but couldn't there be a free market solution?

Couldn't white people move to small towns in Montana and North Dakota and go to church?

Couldn't patriots educate others about morality and freedom by starting newspapers and websites?

https://www.roadsnacks.net/whitest-states-in-america/
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>>736
>Rand Paul
a kike pawn and contributor to AIPAC
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You know the US is doomed when Americans would rather attack those who defend freedom instead of criticizing the government that is enslaving them.
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>>3095

Funny but No.

Rand Paul has blocked the 38Billion $ for Israel bill last November.
Aipac and Cuckolds- I mean Christians United for Israel started ads against him.
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>>3090

There can be no free market solution while our ethnic enemies are being subsidized to colonize us.
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This feels like Obama's 3rd term.

Americans scream that the US collapse is fake news and insist that the USA is a moral, free, and peaceful country with a balanced budget.

Has Trump arrested Clinton, freed Assange, opposed aid to Israel, arm sales to Saudi Arabia, trade wars, nationalizing industries, bailouts, subsidies, sanctions, debt, abortion, homosexuality, ending minimum wages, opening concentration camps, banning free speech, religious bans, and airline seat regulations?

Has Trump arrested the bankers, drained the swamp, decreased taxes, kicked out the illegal aliens, ended the Fed, ended the wars, ended welfare, ended Obamacare, and restored the Constitution?

Do you really think that security cameras, license plate readers, checkpoints, redlight cameras, speed cameras, FBI facial and voice recognition, curfews, gun bans, NSA wiretapping, the end to the right to silence, warrantless searches, private prisons, mandatory minimums, 3 strikes laws, DNA databases, CISPA, SOPA, IMBRA, private prison quotas, no knock raids, take down notices, no fly lists, terror watch lists, Constitution free zones, stop and frisk, 3 strikes laws, kill switches, National Security Letters, DNA databases, kill lists, FBAR, FATCA, Operation Chokepoint, civil forfeiture, CIA torture, NDAA indefinite detention, secret FISA courts, FEMA camps, laws requiring passports for domestic travel, IRS laws denying passports for tax debts, gun and ammo stockpiles, laws outlawing protesting, police militarization, and Jade Helm don't exist?

Do you honestly believe that TSA groping doesn't happen?

Americans have no critical thinking skills, no knowledge about history, no personal responsibility, no ability to understand unintended consequences, and cannot see hypocrisy so all Americans can do is deny that the USA is collapsing, blame others, say Americans are just victims and nothing is their fault, and vehemently attack anyone who criticizes their beloved government overlords.

You get the feeling that a US president who hates the Bill of Rights and loves debt and war is a traitor.

You can't help thinking Americans who believe that the US isn't decaying are deluded and mentally ill.

The USA is collapsing into mass insanity.

How can Americans look in a mirror today without feeling complete disgust and shame or sleep at night?

The US feels like it is committing suicide.
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>>724
That's true. Even the reddest of red states rely on Federal grants, and monies. Things are bad, but they're nowhere near Weimar Republic levels, and probably won't be for at least another generation.

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